1 00:00:33,412 --> 00:00:40,557 ♪ 2 00:00:40,592 --> 00:00:44,665 ♪ All we do is hide away 3 00:00:44,699 --> 00:00:48,255 ♪ All we do is, all we do is hide away ♪ 4 00:00:48,289 --> 00:00:51,913 ♪ All we do is lie in wait 5 00:00:51,948 --> 00:00:56,090 ♪ All we do is, all we do is lie in wait ♪ 6 00:00:56,125 --> 00:00:59,128 ♪ I've been upside down 7 00:00:59,162 --> 00:01:03,339 ♪ I don't wanna be the right way round ♪ 8 00:01:03,373 --> 00:01:07,170 ♪ Can't find paradise on the ground ♪ 9 00:01:08,482 --> 00:01:13,625 ♪ 10 00:01:18,216 --> 00:01:21,943 [sizzling, footsteps approaching] 11 00:01:21,978 --> 00:01:23,290 Oh shit! 12 00:01:24,877 --> 00:01:27,639 Whoa! Oh, you... 13 00:01:27,673 --> 00:01:29,019 Ah... 14 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:31,298 Dad? 15 00:01:34,301 --> 00:01:35,440 Dad! 16 00:01:35,474 --> 00:01:37,027 MARTIN: Yeah? 17 00:01:38,132 --> 00:01:40,134 Morning. 18 00:01:40,169 --> 00:01:41,342 Blimey, are you all right? 19 00:01:41,377 --> 00:01:43,586 You left a pan on. 20 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,519 Me? No. 21 00:01:45,553 --> 00:01:48,901 Yeah, I wa-- I walked in and it was burning. 22 00:01:48,936 --> 00:01:50,075 Is that your porridge? 23 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:51,801 This was off when I left. 24 00:01:51,835 --> 00:01:53,803 Right, well, 25 00:01:53,837 --> 00:01:55,977 I've, I've like literally just walked in. 26 00:01:56,012 --> 00:01:56,944 So... 27 00:01:56,978 --> 00:01:58,394 Well, it's still under warranty. 28 00:01:58,428 --> 00:02:00,050 I'll get in touch with the company. 29 00:02:00,085 --> 00:02:05,366 ♪ 30 00:02:06,402 --> 00:02:07,851 STEVEN: I'm sorry, 31 00:02:07,886 --> 00:02:10,199 if I knew anything, I'd tell you, Mr. Hollis, 32 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:11,717 you know I would.I do. 33 00:02:11,752 --> 00:02:14,030 But if you do hear anything, tell him I need to speak to him. 34 00:02:14,064 --> 00:02:16,343 Tell him it's really urgent. 35 00:02:16,377 --> 00:02:19,415 [distant dog barking] 36 00:02:21,865 --> 00:02:24,696 ♪ 37 00:02:24,730 --> 00:02:26,560 ARBITER: And so, in the end, 38 00:02:26,594 --> 00:02:29,252 the case really came down to one person's word 39 00:02:29,287 --> 00:02:31,116 against another's. 40 00:02:31,151 --> 00:02:33,636 And in this instance we feel bound to consider 41 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:36,121 Dr. Finch's many years exemplary practice, 42 00:02:36,156 --> 00:02:37,467 and his reputation 43 00:02:37,502 --> 00:02:42,127 as a hard-working, generous, and trustworthy GP. 44 00:02:43,266 --> 00:02:46,476 And as such we find we do not uphold the complaint. 45 00:02:46,511 --> 00:02:48,202 PINION: I heard him... 46 00:02:48,237 --> 00:02:50,342 He might sit there now looking like butter wouldn't melt 47 00:02:50,377 --> 00:02:53,276 but he's got another side to him! 48 00:02:53,311 --> 00:02:56,245 Yeah, you look embarrassed, mate. 49 00:02:58,350 --> 00:03:00,663 You should, 'cause you're a disgrace! 50 00:03:00,697 --> 00:03:02,527 [door opens] 51 00:03:02,561 --> 00:03:07,221 ♪ 52 00:03:07,256 --> 00:03:08,981 [keys clacking] 53 00:03:10,604 --> 00:03:13,054 [mouse clicks] 54 00:03:13,089 --> 00:03:16,265 ♪ 55 00:03:18,646 --> 00:03:20,200 [knocking]Guv? 56 00:03:20,234 --> 00:03:22,063 Yeah.He's here. 57 00:03:23,237 --> 00:03:28,311 ♪ 58 00:03:28,346 --> 00:03:31,003 MARK HARPER [on phone]: Peter, it's Mark Harper. 59 00:03:31,038 --> 00:03:32,798 Kate and I can find no record of any paperwork 60 00:03:32,833 --> 00:03:34,352 relating to an ISA 61 00:03:34,386 --> 00:03:36,837 in the name of Salthouse and I need to know today 62 00:03:36,871 --> 00:03:40,530 how a £3,000 check from him has been cashed, so... 63 00:03:40,565 --> 00:03:42,670 you really need to call me. 64 00:03:42,705 --> 00:03:44,638 ♪ 65 00:03:44,672 --> 00:03:48,020 [dog barking] 66 00:03:48,055 --> 00:03:49,367 [door closes] 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,855 There. 68 00:03:57,651 --> 00:03:58,997 [keys jingling] 69 00:04:00,999 --> 00:04:02,311 [places bag down] 70 00:04:09,697 --> 00:04:11,596 [clicks mouse] 71 00:04:17,326 --> 00:04:18,844 [clicks mouse] 72 00:04:24,091 --> 00:04:25,782 [inhales] 73 00:04:25,817 --> 00:04:28,198 Okay, uh... 74 00:04:28,233 --> 00:04:29,752 I'm gonna change all of your settings 75 00:04:29,786 --> 00:04:31,616 so that only your friends can comment. 76 00:04:32,962 --> 00:04:36,034 What does it make them feel when they say those things? 77 00:04:36,068 --> 00:04:39,140 I doubt very much they feel anything at all, Mum. 78 00:04:41,453 --> 00:04:43,938 'Cause they're messed up. 79 00:04:43,973 --> 00:04:46,700 And that.... that isn't about Dad, 80 00:04:46,734 --> 00:04:49,219 or about you, or Hayley, it's about them. 81 00:04:49,254 --> 00:04:51,014 [inhales] 82 00:04:51,049 --> 00:04:52,740 [exhales slowly] 83 00:04:52,775 --> 00:04:55,571 It's just a mirror people hold up to themselves to shout at. 84 00:04:59,609 --> 00:05:03,130 CASSIE: I wanted, if I may, to ask you 85 00:05:03,164 --> 00:05:04,718 about a house you rented, 86 00:05:04,752 --> 00:05:08,100 in Middenham, in December 1999, 87 00:05:08,135 --> 00:05:10,448 which I believe... 88 00:05:10,482 --> 00:05:12,035 was an eight-bedroom house? 89 00:05:13,382 --> 00:05:15,038 Yes, I can't remember specifically, 90 00:05:15,073 --> 00:05:17,178 but, yes, it wa... it was big, 91 00:05:17,213 --> 00:05:18,318 there were a bunch of us. 92 00:05:18,352 --> 00:05:19,802 Three other families? 93 00:05:19,836 --> 00:05:21,182 Yes, although, for the first few days 94 00:05:21,217 --> 00:05:23,012 there were only me and three mates, 95 00:05:23,046 --> 00:05:26,084 our wives and kids joined us on New Year's Eve. 96 00:05:26,118 --> 00:05:28,328 Right. 97 00:05:29,156 --> 00:05:30,433 It was primarily a golfing break. 98 00:05:30,468 --> 00:05:32,608 Oh, okay. 99 00:05:32,642 --> 00:05:34,161 And what were their names, please, 100 00:05:34,195 --> 00:05:35,749 the men? 101 00:05:36,888 --> 00:05:39,615 Tim Finch. 102 00:05:39,649 --> 00:05:40,823 Chris Lowe. 103 00:05:41,686 --> 00:05:42,825 Pete Carr. 104 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:46,207 And are they all still around? 105 00:05:46,242 --> 00:05:48,555 Yup.Still friends? 106 00:05:48,589 --> 00:05:50,695 Yes, we were at school together, 107 00:05:50,729 --> 00:05:52,421 so it's a long connection. 108 00:05:52,455 --> 00:05:53,870 CASSIE: And the families, um, 109 00:05:53,905 --> 00:05:56,217 can you give me details of those people? 110 00:05:57,426 --> 00:06:02,879 Tim was there with his first wife, Derran, and their... 111 00:06:02,914 --> 00:06:04,364 two little girls. 112 00:06:04,398 --> 00:06:06,573 Pete was single at that time, so on his own, 113 00:06:06,607 --> 00:06:08,644 and Chris Lowe was with his first wife, Laura, 114 00:06:08,678 --> 00:06:09,817 and their little girl. 115 00:06:09,852 --> 00:06:12,406 [pen scribbling] 116 00:06:12,441 --> 00:06:14,822 And your wife? 117 00:06:14,857 --> 00:06:18,585 Yes, my wife, Mel, and our little boy, Eliot. 118 00:06:18,619 --> 00:06:19,655 Are you two still together? 119 00:06:19,689 --> 00:06:22,865 No, I remarried a few years ago.Ah. 120 00:06:22,899 --> 00:06:24,729 [pen scribbling] 121 00:06:26,247 --> 00:06:29,216 So this is a photo of Hayley Reid. 122 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:33,669 Do you recognize her? 123 00:06:38,225 --> 00:06:39,882 Yes. 124 00:06:39,916 --> 00:06:41,573 And is that just from the papers or... 125 00:06:41,608 --> 00:06:43,541 Sorry, where is this heading? 126 00:06:43,575 --> 00:06:44,680 [exhales] 127 00:06:44,714 --> 00:06:46,509 We're just trying to corroborate 128 00:06:46,544 --> 00:06:48,442 evidence from another witness, 129 00:06:48,477 --> 00:06:52,342 who thinks Hayley might have cleaned 130 00:06:52,377 --> 00:06:53,689 the house you rented. 131 00:06:55,276 --> 00:06:57,037 I have no recollection of that. 132 00:06:57,071 --> 00:06:59,246 You never saw her there?No. 133 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:02,387 I, I mean we were out most days, but, hey, 134 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:03,353 this story was huge 135 00:07:03,388 --> 00:07:05,045 and her photo was all over the TV, so... 136 00:07:05,079 --> 00:07:08,462 If she had cleaned our house and any of us had have seen her, 137 00:07:08,497 --> 00:07:10,188 then I think someone would have 138 00:07:10,222 --> 00:07:11,154 mentioned something. 139 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:12,259 Absolutely. 140 00:07:12,293 --> 00:07:14,434 [pen scribbling] 141 00:07:16,643 --> 00:07:19,197 When did you return to London, Mr. Hollis? 142 00:07:19,231 --> 00:07:21,061 When the rental ended, which would be, 143 00:07:21,095 --> 00:07:25,099 perhaps, around the second or third. 144 00:07:25,134 --> 00:07:27,205 And you drove back up with your wife and child? 145 00:07:27,239 --> 00:07:28,862 Yes. 146 00:07:28,896 --> 00:07:31,658 How did they get down there on the 31st? 147 00:07:31,692 --> 00:07:34,488 Train, I picked them up from a nearby station. 148 00:07:34,523 --> 00:07:38,285 [pen scribbling] 149 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:40,667 Okay, and this is the last question. 150 00:07:40,701 --> 00:07:46,120 What did you all get up to on the millennium evening? 151 00:07:47,915 --> 00:07:50,331 Um, well, as I remember, we, uh... 152 00:07:50,366 --> 00:07:54,508 we had a meal in the house, all together... 153 00:07:54,543 --> 00:07:59,996 Then, I think the, um... the children stayed up a bit, 154 00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:02,447 till about 9:00 or 10:00. 155 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:06,486 I think the adults watched a movie, 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,006 and then all went to bed after Big Ben. 157 00:08:10,041 --> 00:08:11,387 Is that all of you? 158 00:08:11,421 --> 00:08:14,217 As I recall, yes. 159 00:08:14,252 --> 00:08:15,149 [pen scribbling] 160 00:08:15,184 --> 00:08:16,530 And then, no one went out again, 161 00:08:16,565 --> 00:08:18,152 for the rest of the night. 162 00:08:18,187 --> 00:08:20,258 No. 163 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:21,880 [pen scribbling] 164 00:08:21,915 --> 00:08:23,433 Okay. 165 00:08:24,607 --> 00:08:25,850 That's it. 166 00:08:25,884 --> 00:08:27,403 Thank you. 167 00:08:27,437 --> 00:08:29,060 Thank you very much for your time. 168 00:08:29,094 --> 00:08:34,168 [distant phone ringing] 169 00:08:36,412 --> 00:08:39,415 Sorry, you said you guys met at school? 170 00:08:39,449 --> 00:08:40,623 Yes. 171 00:08:40,658 --> 00:08:42,245 Where was that, the school you went to? 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,075 Finchley.Right. 173 00:08:44,109 --> 00:08:46,284 And, and you all 174 00:08:46,318 --> 00:08:47,561 lived round that area, did you? 175 00:08:47,596 --> 00:08:48,838 Within a couple of miles, yes. 176 00:08:48,873 --> 00:08:50,564 Okay, thanks again. 177 00:08:57,709 --> 00:08:59,573 Well, I think we want to know more about four guys 178 00:08:59,608 --> 00:09:01,575 who grew up half a mile from her grave. 179 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:02,921 I think we do. 180 00:09:07,512 --> 00:09:08,824 ♪ 181 00:09:08,858 --> 00:09:10,411 MAN: Hollis! You wanker! 182 00:09:10,446 --> 00:09:13,518 [shutter clicking]Shit... 183 00:09:15,002 --> 00:09:16,176 [car door closes] 184 00:09:16,210 --> 00:09:21,595 ♪ 185 00:09:24,874 --> 00:09:27,946 REALTOR: And this sort of sized garden is very unusual for a flat 186 00:09:27,981 --> 00:09:30,362 in this part of the city. 187 00:09:30,397 --> 00:09:32,192 It's also west-facing, so... 188 00:09:32,226 --> 00:09:33,262 [soft chuckle] 189 00:09:33,296 --> 00:09:35,747 Anyway, have a natter, 190 00:09:35,782 --> 00:09:38,129 and I'll be outside if you need me. 191 00:09:38,163 --> 00:09:39,509 Thank you. 192 00:09:41,650 --> 00:09:43,306 [exhales] 193 00:09:43,341 --> 00:09:46,068 He's never had a garden with grass before. 194 00:09:46,793 --> 00:09:47,897 You like it. 195 00:09:47,932 --> 00:09:49,278 I think it's perfect. 196 00:09:49,312 --> 00:09:51,349 [chuckles]What? 197 00:09:51,383 --> 00:09:53,834 There's a "but" coming. 198 00:09:54,455 --> 00:09:56,561 But... 199 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:59,944 if we're going to be properly together... 200 00:10:01,670 --> 00:10:03,292 I need to know who you are, Chris. 201 00:10:04,189 --> 00:10:06,088 [soft chuckle] 202 00:10:06,122 --> 00:10:08,090 Who I am? 203 00:10:09,091 --> 00:10:11,714 How does someone like you, so... 204 00:10:11,749 --> 00:10:15,891 brilliant, so... lovely... 205 00:10:16,754 --> 00:10:19,308 end up like you have? 206 00:10:19,342 --> 00:10:20,999 How does that happen? 207 00:10:21,034 --> 00:10:24,485 ♪ 208 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:29,145 [children playing] 209 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:34,323 ♪ 210 00:10:44,333 --> 00:10:48,371 ♪ 211 00:10:48,406 --> 00:10:52,375 [keys clacking] 212 00:10:53,929 --> 00:10:55,689 [clicks mouse] 213 00:10:59,141 --> 00:11:01,799 BENTLEY: So we had two key leads 214 00:11:01,833 --> 00:11:03,524 that I believed were potentially significant, 215 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,285 but were never resolved. 216 00:11:05,319 --> 00:11:06,942 St. Matthew's C of E, 217 00:11:06,976 --> 00:11:09,151 which was burgled at some point that New Year's Eve, 218 00:11:09,185 --> 00:11:12,016 with about £5,000 worth of 18th century silverware 219 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:13,949 taken from a locked cupboard in the vestry. 220 00:11:13,983 --> 00:11:15,675 Blood smears were retrieved 221 00:11:15,709 --> 00:11:17,435 on smashed glass into the vestry, 222 00:11:17,469 --> 00:11:20,127 but there were no matches with anyone on our database. 223 00:11:20,162 --> 00:11:22,026 The church is about halfway 224 00:11:22,060 --> 00:11:24,856 between The Swan and Hayley's parents' 225 00:11:24,891 --> 00:11:27,203 original house, and one possible theory 226 00:11:27,238 --> 00:11:30,448 was that she saw something after she left work, 227 00:11:30,482 --> 00:11:32,622 she went to investigate and ran in to the burglar 228 00:11:32,657 --> 00:11:34,970 or, or burglars. 229 00:11:35,004 --> 00:11:38,042 Certainly, I, I believe, it's worth following up again. 230 00:11:38,076 --> 00:11:40,320 And then 231 00:11:40,354 --> 00:11:43,288 a black car which was seen driving very erratically 232 00:11:43,323 --> 00:11:46,395 on the road between The Swan and her house 233 00:11:46,429 --> 00:11:50,813 at approximately 12:25, maybe 15 minutes after 234 00:11:50,848 --> 00:11:52,712 we know she left the pub. 235 00:11:52,746 --> 00:11:54,748 No reg or make, but the witness thought 236 00:11:54,783 --> 00:11:57,717 it was a black four-door saloon with a tow bar. 237 00:11:57,751 --> 00:11:59,063 Oh, and it's worth mentioning 238 00:11:59,097 --> 00:12:00,858 that the, the weather was very bad that night, 239 00:12:00,892 --> 00:12:02,480 with heavy rain 240 00:12:02,514 --> 00:12:06,760 from about 11:00 onwards, and very poor visibility. 241 00:12:06,795 --> 00:12:08,106 That's it. 242 00:12:09,314 --> 00:12:12,421 So John will be available for the rest of the day, 243 00:12:12,455 --> 00:12:15,113 and then on the phone, at any point, for any questions. 244 00:12:15,148 --> 00:12:16,736 But given what he's just told us, 245 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:18,254 I suggest DNA swabs should be taken 246 00:12:18,289 --> 00:12:20,498 from any suspects we speak to. 247 00:12:20,532 --> 00:12:22,431 Thank you again, John, 248 00:12:22,465 --> 00:12:25,123 that was, that was very useful. 249 00:12:25,158 --> 00:12:29,679 So, specific points of action. 250 00:12:29,714 --> 00:12:32,544 Fran, can you double check all these timelines, please, 251 00:12:32,579 --> 00:12:33,545 for Hayley's movements 252 00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:34,754 on the night of her disappearance 253 00:12:34,788 --> 00:12:35,789 and the week before. 254 00:12:35,824 --> 00:12:37,170 Boss. 255 00:12:37,204 --> 00:12:39,517 Murray, can you take the witness who saw this car. 256 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:40,829 Yup. 257 00:12:40,863 --> 00:12:44,798 And, Jake, obviously the body was found in London, 258 00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:46,558 and then given that new development 259 00:12:46,593 --> 00:12:48,008 it's worth another chat with Adrian Mullery, I think. 260 00:12:48,043 --> 00:12:49,699 Guv. 261 00:12:49,734 --> 00:12:53,151 Following this morning's interview with James Hollis, 262 00:12:53,186 --> 00:12:55,257 myself and D.I. Khan will certainly be speaking 263 00:12:55,291 --> 00:12:59,951 to the other three male occupants of The Spinney. 264 00:13:00,849 --> 00:13:03,748 Okay, that's it; thank you, everyone. 265 00:13:05,267 --> 00:13:07,994 That was, that was great, thank you again. 266 00:13:08,028 --> 00:13:09,271 Yeah, no problem. 267 00:13:09,305 --> 00:13:10,997 So are you, what are you heading back down tonight or... 268 00:13:11,031 --> 00:13:15,139 No, no no, my, my kids live with their mum in town 269 00:13:15,173 --> 00:13:16,450 so I'm gonna stick around, 270 00:13:16,485 --> 00:13:18,004 spend some time with them for a few days. 271 00:13:18,038 --> 00:13:19,522 Right. How old are they? 272 00:13:19,557 --> 00:13:20,972 21, 20. 273 00:13:21,007 --> 00:13:22,767 Ah, same as mine, boys or... 274 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:23,906 Two boys. 275 00:13:23,941 --> 00:13:26,357 Jinx.[chuckles] 276 00:13:26,391 --> 00:13:28,600 Anyway, I better go and check in to the hotel so... 277 00:13:28,635 --> 00:13:29,774 Go for it. 278 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,672 And we will speak soon I hope. 279 00:13:31,707 --> 00:13:33,260 Yeah, absolutely. 280 00:13:33,295 --> 00:13:35,435 John, thanks for that, it was great. 281 00:13:35,469 --> 00:13:38,196 Listen, if you're at a loose end any evening, 282 00:13:38,231 --> 00:13:40,681 there's always a few of us at The Enterprise 283 00:13:40,716 --> 00:13:42,822 if you fancy a drink, it's just, just opposite. 284 00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:44,478 Yeah, great, cheers. 285 00:13:44,513 --> 00:13:45,963 I might take you up on that.Good, do. 286 00:13:45,997 --> 00:13:47,309 All right, see you.See you. 287 00:13:47,343 --> 00:13:49,276 See you. 288 00:13:49,311 --> 00:13:50,450 Cheers. 289 00:13:51,692 --> 00:13:54,212 You're welcome. 290 00:13:54,247 --> 00:13:56,766 ♪ 291 00:13:56,801 --> 00:13:57,733 Yeah. 292 00:13:57,767 --> 00:13:59,459 [phone ringing]Oh. 293 00:14:01,426 --> 00:14:02,531 TIM [via phone]: Hola gordo coño. 294 00:14:02,565 --> 00:14:04,257 Hola muy gordo coño. 295 00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:05,396 How you doing? 296 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:07,881 JAMES: Yeah, all good, you? 297 00:14:07,916 --> 00:14:09,296 Yeah, very well. 298 00:14:09,331 --> 00:14:11,471 I've just been in Manchester on a work thing, 299 00:14:11,505 --> 00:14:12,955 driving back to Sussex now with Caz. 300 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:16,027 Oh right, give her my love.I will. 301 00:14:16,062 --> 00:14:18,305 But listen, very quickly... I presume you've seen the news 302 00:14:18,340 --> 00:14:19,651 about the Hayley Reid case? 303 00:14:19,686 --> 00:14:21,653 Yeah, I did, very sad. 304 00:14:21,688 --> 00:14:23,241 JAMES: Oh, wasn't it. 305 00:14:23,276 --> 00:14:25,554 Anyway, the police are obviously doing a general trawl 306 00:14:25,588 --> 00:14:28,108 for potential new witnesses 307 00:14:28,143 --> 00:14:30,179 and they spoke to me this morning 308 00:14:30,214 --> 00:14:31,767 about the house we rented. 309 00:14:31,801 --> 00:14:33,458 Right. 310 00:14:33,493 --> 00:14:35,495 Apparently they think she may have been our cleaner? 311 00:14:35,529 --> 00:14:36,565 Wow. 312 00:14:36,599 --> 00:14:38,705 I said I couldn't recall us having a cleaner, 313 00:14:38,739 --> 00:14:39,982 and I certainly think 314 00:14:40,017 --> 00:14:41,708 one of us would have noticed if it had have been her, 315 00:14:41,742 --> 00:14:43,192 given the amount of coverage. 316 00:14:43,227 --> 00:14:44,400 Indeed. 317 00:14:44,435 --> 00:14:45,919 JAMES: Anyway, long and short is 318 00:14:45,954 --> 00:14:47,541 they're probably going to want to speak 319 00:14:47,576 --> 00:14:48,922 to the whole gang of us, so... 320 00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:51,649 I just thought that I ought to let you know. 321 00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:53,030 Yeah, no worries. 322 00:14:53,064 --> 00:14:54,928 JAMES: Obviously they're looking for people 323 00:14:54,963 --> 00:14:58,414 who may have seen something that only now seems relevant 324 00:14:58,449 --> 00:15:00,900 but I told them we all stayed in the house that night, 325 00:15:00,934 --> 00:15:03,557 eating with our families, so... 326 00:15:03,592 --> 00:15:05,835 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 327 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:06,975 Anyway, I'll give Pete a bell, 328 00:15:07,009 --> 00:15:08,321 and maybe you could give Chris the heads up? 329 00:15:08,355 --> 00:15:10,185 Sure. Oh, and I've emailed 330 00:15:10,219 --> 00:15:11,255 some dates for our meetup. 331 00:15:11,289 --> 00:15:13,257 Oh yeah, I saw. Um... I can... 332 00:15:13,291 --> 00:15:14,396 TIM: do any of those. 333 00:15:14,430 --> 00:15:17,019 Excellent, speak soon, mate. 334 00:15:17,054 --> 00:15:19,332 Yeah. Cheers, Jamie. 335 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:23,923 Jamie sends his love. 336 00:15:23,957 --> 00:15:25,925 [blinker clicking]How is he? 337 00:15:25,959 --> 00:15:27,409 Oh, he's very well. 338 00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:31,206 He's just, uh... trying to arrange a get-together. 339 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,483 The four amigos. 340 00:15:32,517 --> 00:15:33,967 [chuckling]: That'll be nice. 341 00:15:34,002 --> 00:15:35,831 Yeah, it will. It's been too long. 342 00:15:35,865 --> 00:15:37,937 Much too long. 343 00:15:37,971 --> 00:15:40,905 [seagulls squawking] 344 00:15:40,940 --> 00:15:42,251 PETE: 'Course I remember! 345 00:15:42,286 --> 00:15:43,908 I was meant to have bought the puddings and I forgot 346 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:45,082 so I legged it to the corner shop 347 00:15:45,116 --> 00:15:46,359 and bought a load of Cornettos, 348 00:15:46,393 --> 00:15:49,086 which your ex wasn't too happy about. 349 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,742 Anyway, I just wanted to check that you remembered it 350 00:15:50,777 --> 00:15:52,261 the same as I did. 351 00:15:52,296 --> 00:15:55,644 So we're all ready for the 22nd, Chris has replied now, 352 00:15:55,678 --> 00:15:57,473 so I'll book a table and send you all a link. 353 00:15:57,508 --> 00:16:00,269 Just one quick thing before you go, Jamie. 354 00:16:00,304 --> 00:16:02,340 Actually, I'm literally just heading in to a meeting, mate. 355 00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:04,860 Yeah, yeah, I'll be ten seconds. 356 00:16:04,894 --> 00:16:09,037 Jamie, I need a massive favor. 357 00:16:09,071 --> 00:16:10,176 [children playing in background] 358 00:16:10,210 --> 00:16:12,385 CHRIS: I was married, 359 00:16:12,419 --> 00:16:14,628 for 12 years, 360 00:16:14,663 --> 00:16:18,356 and I had-- have, I have a daughter, Maya, 361 00:16:18,391 --> 00:16:21,049 who I last saw 17 years ago. 362 00:16:23,361 --> 00:16:27,331 My marriage ended early 2000, 363 00:16:27,365 --> 00:16:28,918 and because of some... 364 00:16:28,953 --> 00:16:31,507 some issues that I had at the time, my wife, Laura, 365 00:16:31,542 --> 00:16:35,132 she felt it was damaging for Maya to be around that. 366 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:38,204 And I'd run up some debts. 367 00:16:38,238 --> 00:16:39,550 So I went from living in 368 00:16:39,584 --> 00:16:45,142 a nice house in Notting Hill to a one-bedroom flat in Acton, 369 00:16:45,176 --> 00:16:48,007 and then a hostel. 370 00:16:48,041 --> 00:16:50,975 And... and then the streets. 371 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:52,563 How long were you homeless? 372 00:16:54,082 --> 00:16:56,739 On and off for... seven years. 373 00:16:56,774 --> 00:16:59,397 Oh, Chris... 374 00:16:59,432 --> 00:17:00,571 I'm so sorry. 375 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,919 And you had no friends who could have helped you? 376 00:17:03,953 --> 00:17:05,472 Yeah, yeah, I had friends who would have been 377 00:17:05,507 --> 00:17:06,749 desperate to help me. 378 00:17:06,784 --> 00:17:08,096 Yeah, but you have to want to be helped. 379 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:10,408 And I didn't.[sighs] 380 00:17:10,443 --> 00:17:11,858 I hated myself. 381 00:17:11,892 --> 00:17:13,756 I thought I deserved everything that happened to me. 382 00:17:13,791 --> 00:17:16,345 And your marriage, 383 00:17:16,380 --> 00:17:18,071 the issues you mention... 384 00:17:18,106 --> 00:17:20,177 Okay, so... 385 00:17:20,211 --> 00:17:23,559 as you know, I have bipolar disorder, 386 00:17:23,594 --> 00:17:25,044 which was undiagnosed at the time, 387 00:17:25,078 --> 00:17:26,597 and so it was unmedicated, 388 00:17:26,631 --> 00:17:28,081 which meant that, 389 00:17:28,116 --> 00:17:33,017 you know, my behavior was... challenging. 390 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,813 And as soon as I started costing my company money, 391 00:17:35,847 --> 00:17:38,609 it was inevitable I'd be asked to step down. 392 00:17:39,610 --> 00:17:41,336 [laughing] 393 00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:44,028 And that was just not what she had married, 394 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:47,342 an unemployed man with mental health issues. 395 00:17:48,929 --> 00:17:50,310 So she asked me to leave. 396 00:17:52,347 --> 00:17:54,176 And I did. 397 00:17:54,211 --> 00:17:57,559 And then 18 months later she married a hedge fund manager, 398 00:17:57,593 --> 00:18:00,320 who bought her a house in Holland Park, so... 399 00:18:03,220 --> 00:18:07,431 And then in 2012 Maya wrote to tell me 400 00:18:07,465 --> 00:18:11,193 that Laura had died from breast cancer 401 00:18:11,228 --> 00:18:14,507 and to ask that I stay away from the funeral. 402 00:18:16,267 --> 00:18:17,579 I thought about writing back, 403 00:18:17,613 --> 00:18:18,925 and saying, you know, that I was better now, 404 00:18:18,959 --> 00:18:21,169 that I was a different person. 405 00:18:21,203 --> 00:18:22,687 And I am. 406 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:26,829 But I think there comes a time when you have to accept 407 00:18:26,864 --> 00:18:28,383 how things have turned out. 408 00:18:29,418 --> 00:18:32,283 That life can sometimes simply be unfair. 409 00:18:32,318 --> 00:18:34,458 And to keep resisting that... 410 00:18:36,494 --> 00:18:38,427 It takes so much energy, Mila. 411 00:18:40,705 --> 00:18:42,051 Energy that you need 412 00:18:42,086 --> 00:18:44,053 for the future. 413 00:18:44,088 --> 00:18:49,024 ♪ 414 00:18:59,276 --> 00:19:01,554 Love? 415 00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:03,556 MARIA: In here. 416 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:04,936 Hey, Pete. 417 00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:08,768 Hello, Mark. 418 00:19:08,802 --> 00:19:10,459 What a lovely lady your missus is. 419 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:12,806 I was just about to call you. 420 00:19:12,841 --> 00:19:14,877 Punching above your weight there, buddy. 421 00:19:20,676 --> 00:19:22,299 Three grand. 422 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:24,508 And my apologies. 423 00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:28,788 I was stressed about some deals and screwed up the paperwork 424 00:19:28,822 --> 00:19:30,479 I accidentally paid Salthouse's check 425 00:19:30,514 --> 00:19:32,067 into my personal account. 426 00:19:32,101 --> 00:19:33,896 But, uh... 427 00:19:36,175 --> 00:19:38,211 There it is. 428 00:19:38,246 --> 00:19:39,592 All there. 429 00:19:44,804 --> 00:19:48,221 You know what we used to call blokes like Pete, Maria? 430 00:19:50,085 --> 00:19:51,983 FILTH. 431 00:19:52,018 --> 00:19:55,021 "Failed in London, Tried Hong Kong." 432 00:19:55,055 --> 00:19:57,541 Bit of a wild west out there wasn't it, mate? 433 00:19:57,575 --> 00:20:01,303 Attracted a very distinct sort of person. 434 00:20:01,338 --> 00:20:03,374 I see you, buddy. 435 00:20:07,102 --> 00:20:08,379 Lovely to meet you, Maria, 436 00:20:08,414 --> 00:20:10,209 I'll let myself out. 437 00:20:10,243 --> 00:20:13,522 ♪ 438 00:20:13,557 --> 00:20:14,903 [door opens] 439 00:20:16,594 --> 00:20:17,940 [door closes] 440 00:20:18,734 --> 00:20:20,805 I'm sorry about that. 441 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,327 ♪ 442 00:20:25,362 --> 00:20:28,192 I need a shower. 443 00:20:29,158 --> 00:20:31,091 This isn't working, Pete. 444 00:20:32,541 --> 00:20:33,887 You and me. 445 00:20:35,924 --> 00:20:39,099 I'm sorry, but... 446 00:20:39,134 --> 00:20:41,688 this just isn't what I thought I was buying. 447 00:20:42,551 --> 00:20:43,932 It'll get better, babes. 448 00:20:46,003 --> 00:20:48,626 Trust me, 449 00:20:48,661 --> 00:20:51,319 I've got some really good business coming in. 450 00:20:53,976 --> 00:20:56,185 [birds chirping] 451 00:20:58,049 --> 00:20:59,361 [car door closes] 452 00:20:59,396 --> 00:21:04,987 ♪ 453 00:21:09,026 --> 00:21:10,614 Oh, uh... I forgot to say, 454 00:21:10,648 --> 00:21:12,409 I've got a couple of guests arriving. 455 00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:14,169 Can you show them in, please, Liz? 456 00:21:14,203 --> 00:21:16,171 Yes. 457 00:21:16,205 --> 00:21:17,517 Thanks. 458 00:21:18,587 --> 00:21:19,933 [places pen down] 459 00:21:22,419 --> 00:21:25,318 [children playing] 460 00:21:25,353 --> 00:21:30,289 [indistinct chatter] 461 00:21:30,323 --> 00:21:31,635 Adrian? 462 00:21:33,361 --> 00:21:35,432 Have you got five minutes? 463 00:21:38,193 --> 00:21:43,819 ♪ 464 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:52,759 Well, obviously I recognize her 465 00:21:52,794 --> 00:21:54,451 but, I, I don't recall ever having seeing her 466 00:21:54,485 --> 00:21:55,762 at the house at any point... 467 00:21:55,797 --> 00:21:58,869 As Jamie said, if we had have seen her, 468 00:21:58,903 --> 00:22:00,698 we would have discussed it at the time. 469 00:22:00,733 --> 00:22:02,079 It was a huge story. 470 00:22:02,113 --> 00:22:03,425 Absolutely. 471 00:22:07,395 --> 00:22:09,328 So, Mr. Hollis, he, he, he told us 472 00:22:09,362 --> 00:22:11,226 that the four of you had gone down 473 00:22:11,260 --> 00:22:13,228 on your own at first, to play golf? 474 00:22:13,262 --> 00:22:14,367 Yes. 475 00:22:15,817 --> 00:22:19,372 And then your wife, Derran, and your girls 476 00:22:19,407 --> 00:22:20,684 arrived on the 31st? 477 00:22:20,718 --> 00:22:22,202 Yes. 478 00:22:22,237 --> 00:22:24,377 And how old were they, the kids? 479 00:22:24,412 --> 00:22:28,139 Claire would have been eight, 480 00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:30,141 and Emma just turned ten. 481 00:22:30,176 --> 00:22:32,143 I'm sorry, just to go back on one thing, 482 00:22:32,178 --> 00:22:36,355 New Year's, the kids would have gone to bed at... 483 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:39,565 9:00, 10:00, maybe. 484 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,394 And no one went out after that. 485 00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:42,913 Nope. 486 00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:46,503 What car where you driving back then, Dr. Finch? 487 00:22:47,676 --> 00:22:49,575 Um... 488 00:22:49,609 --> 00:22:53,441 I had my Audi in '99, I think, 489 00:22:53,475 --> 00:22:54,649 an A4. 490 00:22:54,683 --> 00:22:57,617 So was that the saloon or... 491 00:22:57,652 --> 00:23:01,828 No, the estate, we needed the space for holidays and stuff, 492 00:23:01,863 --> 00:23:04,417 saves faffing around with a top box or a trailer 493 00:23:04,452 --> 00:23:05,522 or any of that. 494 00:23:05,556 --> 00:23:08,076 And what color was it? 495 00:23:09,353 --> 00:23:10,665 Silver. 496 00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:13,288 And, and your wife and kids, 497 00:23:13,322 --> 00:23:15,255 they went down by train. 498 00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:19,156 With Jamie's wife and son. 499 00:23:20,295 --> 00:23:22,124 And everybody headed back to London on the 2nd. 500 00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:23,298 Yes. 501 00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,577 Did you all live in London then? 502 00:23:26,612 --> 00:23:30,892 All except Pete, he lived in Hong Kong. 503 00:23:34,378 --> 00:23:36,725 And your marriage to Derran, that ended when? 504 00:23:38,658 --> 00:23:43,387 What relevance has when my marriage ended to anything? 505 00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:48,116 Sorry, if any question makes you feel uncomfortable, 506 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:49,842 you don't have to answer. 507 00:23:50,636 --> 00:23:53,397 We separated in 2001. 508 00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:55,675 Okay. 509 00:23:55,710 --> 00:23:56,918 And do you remember when 510 00:23:56,952 --> 00:23:58,471 Mr. Hollis and his wife separated? 511 00:23:58,506 --> 00:24:01,854 Same year I think, or, or maybe 2000? 512 00:24:01,888 --> 00:24:03,787 And Chris Lowe and his wife? 513 00:24:03,821 --> 00:24:06,548 Yeah, roughly the same time. 514 00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:09,171 And are you still in contact 515 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:12,796 with Derran, if we wanted to speak to her? 516 00:24:12,830 --> 00:24:14,073 I haven't seen Derran for many years, 517 00:24:14,107 --> 00:24:15,523 but I can get a number from my kids 518 00:24:15,557 --> 00:24:16,938 if you need it. 519 00:24:16,972 --> 00:24:18,491 That would be very helpful, thank you. 520 00:24:18,526 --> 00:24:22,115 Oh I, I should just say that, uh, 521 00:24:22,150 --> 00:24:25,602 she's had a number of issues 522 00:24:25,636 --> 00:24:27,500 over the last couple of decades-- 523 00:24:27,535 --> 00:24:31,297 depression, anxiety-- and so I'm not entirely sure 524 00:24:31,331 --> 00:24:33,230 you'll find her the most reliable 525 00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:34,645 of narrators. 526 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,820 Okay. 527 00:24:36,854 --> 00:24:38,338 Well, thank you for that. 528 00:24:38,373 --> 00:24:40,064 Uh... 529 00:24:40,099 --> 00:24:42,204 And then one last thing, 530 00:24:42,239 --> 00:24:44,552 and should say, 531 00:24:44,586 --> 00:24:46,139 do feel free to say no, 532 00:24:46,174 --> 00:24:50,799 but in order to help eliminate you from our enquiries, 533 00:24:50,834 --> 00:24:52,801 how would you feel about giving us a DNA swab? 534 00:24:52,836 --> 00:24:55,494 Yes, of course, no problem. 535 00:24:57,461 --> 00:24:59,877 So, if nobody went out after 10:00, 536 00:24:59,912 --> 00:25:01,223 then it can't be them. 537 00:25:01,258 --> 00:25:02,431 I mean we know Hayley 538 00:25:02,466 --> 00:25:05,573 was seen alive at 12:10, so... 539 00:25:05,607 --> 00:25:07,644 Yeah, I think you're right. 540 00:25:07,678 --> 00:25:09,715 And if we're spinning our wheels on these guys, 541 00:25:09,749 --> 00:25:11,786 I don't want to waste any more time. 542 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:14,478 Let's take the last two separately... 543 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:15,824 Hi, Dad. 544 00:25:15,859 --> 00:25:18,102 It's me. 545 00:25:18,137 --> 00:25:19,932 Look, I'm really sorry, I'm going to be a bit late. 546 00:25:19,966 --> 00:25:22,348 [birds chirping] 547 00:25:22,382 --> 00:25:24,971 Please... call me. 548 00:25:30,874 --> 00:25:32,013 [sighs] 549 00:25:35,706 --> 00:25:38,571 How many times have you been here before, Jamie? 550 00:25:38,606 --> 00:25:41,125 He'll be fine. 551 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,060 You know, the longer this goes on... 552 00:25:45,095 --> 00:25:47,649 the more his problems... 553 00:25:47,684 --> 00:25:48,926 consume him. 554 00:25:48,961 --> 00:25:52,067 The more you look at the paths he took, 555 00:25:52,102 --> 00:25:56,555 the choices we made-- Imade-- and think... 556 00:25:57,694 --> 00:25:59,385 Was it then? 557 00:25:59,419 --> 00:26:01,007 Was it that choice? 558 00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:03,389 Or, or that choice 559 00:26:03,423 --> 00:26:05,874 that messed everything up? 560 00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:08,601 Was it then 561 00:26:08,636 --> 00:26:12,294 that I ruined my child's life? 562 00:26:12,329 --> 00:26:16,851 ♪ 563 00:26:16,885 --> 00:26:19,923 JAMES [on voicemail]: Call me... 564 00:26:22,028 --> 00:26:26,895 ♪ 565 00:26:31,935 --> 00:26:33,764 [women chattering] 566 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,870 Sometimes I just... 567 00:26:35,904 --> 00:26:37,526 Hi...Hello. 568 00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:38,597 Gemma left some school books at mine, 569 00:26:38,631 --> 00:26:39,805 and I, I brought them round. 570 00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:41,358 And then she wanted to show me her room. 571 00:26:41,392 --> 00:26:42,739 Right. 572 00:26:42,773 --> 00:26:43,981 USHA: Lovely place though. 573 00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:45,017 SUNNY: Thank you. 574 00:26:47,295 --> 00:26:48,779 Anyway, I need to shoot off. 575 00:26:49,918 --> 00:26:51,057 Nice to see you.And you. 576 00:26:51,092 --> 00:26:52,438 Bye, girls. 577 00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:56,235 Bye. 578 00:26:56,269 --> 00:26:57,443 Bye. 579 00:26:57,477 --> 00:26:59,169 [door closes] 580 00:26:59,203 --> 00:27:01,689 ♪ 581 00:27:01,723 --> 00:27:03,138 Yeah, well, you see, mine are from 582 00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:05,658 the "clip round the ear hole" generation. 583 00:27:05,693 --> 00:27:07,384 Yeah, I think he'd still like to, to be honest. 584 00:27:07,418 --> 00:27:09,144 Oh, dear. 585 00:27:09,179 --> 00:27:10,456 And do you have children? 586 00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:13,321 No, never had the urge to be a mother. 587 00:27:13,355 --> 00:27:15,150 Well, smart move. [laughs]Tell me about it. 588 00:27:15,185 --> 00:27:17,256 JENNY: They take so much from you, don't they? 589 00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:18,844 Not sure I'd see it quite like... 590 00:27:18,878 --> 00:27:20,190 Just I'm too selfish I think.Yeah? 591 00:27:20,224 --> 00:27:21,398 Liked my career too much. 592 00:27:21,432 --> 00:27:24,332 I think if you are going to have children, 593 00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:25,816 you need to be around. 594 00:27:26,748 --> 00:27:28,060 Mmm. Whoops. 595 00:27:28,094 --> 00:27:29,061 Well... yes. 596 00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,580 I mean, an evening like tonight, 597 00:27:31,615 --> 00:27:32,927 it's fine you letting us down, 598 00:27:32,961 --> 00:27:35,723 but how did you cope when that was your kids, 599 00:27:35,757 --> 00:27:38,104 turning up two hours late for supper? 600 00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:40,762 Oh, we, um... muddled through. 601 00:27:40,797 --> 00:27:42,902 [soft chuckle] 602 00:27:42,937 --> 00:27:45,525 Anyway, Dad tells me you're off to Venice at the weekend. 603 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,630 I know. 604 00:27:46,665 --> 00:27:47,735 You should tell him 605 00:27:47,769 --> 00:27:49,150 to stop spoiling me. 606 00:27:49,184 --> 00:27:50,669 I should. 607 00:27:50,703 --> 00:27:52,049 And first class too. 608 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,535 Venice? 609 00:27:57,296 --> 00:27:58,746 [laughs] 610 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:01,058 [Jenny laughing also] 611 00:28:01,093 --> 00:28:03,889 [laughing] 612 00:28:03,923 --> 00:28:05,718 Right. Yeah. 613 00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:06,857 [snorting] 614 00:28:06,892 --> 00:28:07,996 Funny. 615 00:28:08,031 --> 00:28:09,480 Very funny. 616 00:28:09,515 --> 00:28:13,381 ♪ 617 00:28:13,415 --> 00:28:16,556 [birds squawking] 618 00:28:16,591 --> 00:28:18,593 SARAH BRADY: Actually that's not quite what I said. 619 00:28:18,627 --> 00:28:20,595 Okay, um, I have it here, 620 00:28:20,629 --> 00:28:23,425 you said you saw her leave just after midnight? 621 00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:24,737 No, I said she would have left, 622 00:28:24,772 --> 00:28:26,877 just after her shift ended at midnight, 623 00:28:26,912 --> 00:28:28,051 I never said I actually saw her. 624 00:28:28,085 --> 00:28:30,018 [papers shuffling]Right. 625 00:28:30,053 --> 00:28:33,194 Guy Halford, the manager, he's the one who actually saw her. 626 00:28:34,195 --> 00:28:36,335 Sorry, and so what was the last time 627 00:28:36,369 --> 00:28:38,130 you saw her? 628 00:28:38,164 --> 00:28:39,959 Just before 11:00. 629 00:28:39,994 --> 00:28:41,789 I was working through till 3:00 630 00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:43,342 and I took a half hour break then. 631 00:28:43,376 --> 00:28:45,033 When Guy came back he put me in the bar 632 00:28:45,068 --> 00:28:47,380 and I just presumed that Hayley was finishing up 633 00:28:47,415 --> 00:28:48,796 in the restaurant. 634 00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:52,731 And Guy Halford, does he still live in Middenham? 635 00:28:52,765 --> 00:28:56,493 ♪ 636 00:29:05,813 --> 00:29:09,575 ♪ 637 00:29:15,823 --> 00:29:16,927 Hi. 638 00:29:16,962 --> 00:29:18,239 Hi. 639 00:29:18,273 --> 00:29:20,620 I'm looking for Christopher Lowe. 640 00:29:22,105 --> 00:29:24,176 Hello. 641 00:29:24,210 --> 00:29:27,938 [dog barking] 642 00:29:27,973 --> 00:29:32,011 ♪ 643 00:29:32,046 --> 00:29:33,392 [car door closes] 644 00:29:34,255 --> 00:29:35,670 Go on. 645 00:29:35,704 --> 00:29:36,844 Stay there. 646 00:29:36,878 --> 00:29:38,846 Stay. 647 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,679 ♪ 648 00:29:50,409 --> 00:29:52,273 Mr. Carr?Yeah? 649 00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:56,518 D.I. Sunny Khan. 650 00:29:56,553 --> 00:29:57,865 Have you got five minutes? 651 00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:08,496 No. 652 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:10,049 Sorry. 653 00:30:11,671 --> 00:30:11,879 Okay. 654 00:30:14,329 --> 00:30:15,503 Absolutely sure? 655 00:30:15,537 --> 00:30:17,332 Yeah. 656 00:30:17,367 --> 00:30:18,817 You know who she is though.Yeah. 657 00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:25,237 Of course, yeah, I, I mean I never saw her in that house. 658 00:30:25,271 --> 00:30:26,652 Are you okay, Mr. Lowe? 659 00:30:26,686 --> 00:30:28,930 Yeah. Yeah. 660 00:30:28,965 --> 00:30:31,795 I just, I, I don't cope with stress very well. 661 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,383 Would you prefer to have someone with you? 662 00:30:33,417 --> 00:30:35,695 No, no, no. No, I'm-I'm fine, fine for now. 663 00:30:35,730 --> 00:30:37,042 Okay. 664 00:30:37,076 --> 00:30:38,940 So we're, we're just asking everyone we speak to, 665 00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:40,493 a number of general questions, 666 00:30:40,528 --> 00:30:43,255 to help us with our enquiries.Mm-hmm. 667 00:30:43,289 --> 00:30:46,430 So can you tell me what car you were driving that week? 668 00:30:46,465 --> 00:30:49,433 I didn't take a car, I went down with Tim. 669 00:30:50,469 --> 00:30:52,229 And then did you and your family 670 00:30:52,264 --> 00:30:54,231 travel back with him or...? 671 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:56,647 My wife drove down with our daughter, 672 00:30:56,682 --> 00:30:58,546 and we went back in her car. 673 00:30:58,580 --> 00:30:59,685 Right. 674 00:30:59,719 --> 00:31:01,031 So what car was she driving? 675 00:31:02,170 --> 00:31:06,071 She would have been driving the Maserati. 676 00:31:06,105 --> 00:31:09,350 ♪ 677 00:31:09,384 --> 00:31:12,284 Right. 678 00:31:12,318 --> 00:31:15,218 [birds squawking] 679 00:31:22,846 --> 00:31:24,572 You know what? 680 00:31:24,606 --> 00:31:26,988 I think I did see her at the house. 681 00:31:28,817 --> 00:31:30,198 Right. 682 00:31:30,233 --> 00:31:31,717 Are you sure? 683 00:31:31,751 --> 00:31:34,513 Yeah, just the one time, but, uh... 684 00:31:34,547 --> 00:31:36,411 she's got a distinctive face. 685 00:31:36,446 --> 00:31:37,826 So, yeah, I think that was her. 686 00:31:37,861 --> 00:31:39,414 Okay. 687 00:31:39,449 --> 00:31:41,037 Was that on your own or...? 688 00:31:41,071 --> 00:31:42,935 I'd come back from a round early, 689 00:31:42,970 --> 00:31:44,247 I was still a bit jetlagged, 690 00:31:44,281 --> 00:31:45,938 so I went back to the house for a kip. 691 00:31:45,973 --> 00:31:48,423 When I walked in, she was there, hoovering. 692 00:31:48,458 --> 00:31:52,911 I said hello and asked if there was anything else she could do 693 00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:54,360 'cause of the noise. 694 00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:55,914 What day would that have been? 695 00:31:57,156 --> 00:31:58,709 I'd have to check a calendar, 696 00:31:58,744 --> 00:32:00,711 do you know when it was rented from? 697 00:32:00,746 --> 00:32:02,058 Yeah, uh... 698 00:32:04,060 --> 00:32:05,785 Monday the 27th. 699 00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:07,822 Monday, uh... 700 00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:09,720 well, we arrived in the evening, I remember that. 701 00:32:09,755 --> 00:32:11,274 I think we just chilled the next day, 702 00:32:11,308 --> 00:32:12,792 had a couple of bevvies in the local, 703 00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:15,830 and played our first round the day after. 704 00:32:15,864 --> 00:32:19,938 So I'm thinking the Wednesday. 705 00:32:19,972 --> 00:32:21,077 Just to go back 706 00:32:21,111 --> 00:32:22,975 to the conversation with her, 707 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:24,528 was it just about the hoovering, was it? 708 00:32:24,563 --> 00:32:25,564 Yeah. 709 00:32:25,598 --> 00:32:26,945 When I woke up, the other lads were back, 710 00:32:26,979 --> 00:32:28,981 and she'd gone. 711 00:32:29,016 --> 00:32:31,950 And you didn't discuss this with the others? 712 00:32:32,433 --> 00:32:34,953 Discuss what? 713 00:32:35,643 --> 00:32:37,610 That this girl... 714 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,717 who later went missing, 715 00:32:40,751 --> 00:32:42,098 had been in the house that you all rented? 716 00:32:42,926 --> 00:32:43,996 No. 717 00:32:44,031 --> 00:32:46,654 I mean... I drove back to London on the 2nd 718 00:32:46,688 --> 00:32:50,140 and then flew out to Hong Kong first thing the next day, so... 719 00:32:51,693 --> 00:32:53,212 This was a big story? 720 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:56,008 It was huge, it was in 721 00:32:56,043 --> 00:32:57,389 all the national newspapers for weeks. 722 00:32:57,423 --> 00:32:59,011 Right, well... 723 00:32:59,046 --> 00:33:00,702 I had no idea about that. 724 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:04,568 And her photo being on the front pages 725 00:33:04,603 --> 00:33:06,260 the last couple of days? 726 00:33:06,294 --> 00:33:09,918 Work's been crazy, I haven't had time to look at the papers. 727 00:33:09,953 --> 00:33:12,887 I'm sorry, but the first I've ever heard of this girl 728 00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:15,683 is now. 729 00:33:15,717 --> 00:33:17,202 ♪ 730 00:33:17,236 --> 00:33:19,963 I suppose one of us would have cooked 731 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:22,759 and then all of us, with the kids, I mean, 732 00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:24,036 would have eaten together. 733 00:33:24,071 --> 00:33:25,727 And that was a pleasant evening? 734 00:33:25,762 --> 00:33:27,798 Yeah.Everyone had a nice time? 735 00:33:27,833 --> 00:33:29,835 Yeah, yeah, we had a nice time-- why do you ask that? 736 00:33:29,869 --> 00:33:31,630 Oh, just... 737 00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:35,392 [laughing]: because Christmas and New Year can be quite stressful can't it? 738 00:33:35,427 --> 00:33:37,325 And... I understand your marriage 739 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120 broke down not long after? 740 00:33:39,155 --> 00:33:40,984 What has that got to do with anything? 741 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:44,539 Well, I wondered if that was in any way connected to something 742 00:33:44,574 --> 00:33:46,093 that happened on this break? 743 00:33:46,127 --> 00:33:48,164 You know I think I do, I think I do need someone with me. 744 00:33:49,579 --> 00:33:50,925 And I can arrange that, of course, 745 00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:52,892 but can you answer that question please 746 00:33:52,927 --> 00:33:56,758 because I'm aware that of the three of you that were married, 747 00:33:56,793 --> 00:33:59,692 all of you were separated within the year. 748 00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:01,729 No, that was, that was, that was nothing to do 749 00:34:01,763 --> 00:34:05,733 with anything that happened on that break, so. 750 00:34:06,699 --> 00:34:08,287 Sure. 751 00:34:08,322 --> 00:34:09,840 Who's that? 752 00:34:13,189 --> 00:34:14,742 That's my girlfriend and her son-- 753 00:34:14,776 --> 00:34:16,709 I want to stop now, please. 754 00:34:16,744 --> 00:34:18,642 One more thing.[rustling in bag] 755 00:34:18,677 --> 00:34:22,474 ♪ 756 00:34:22,508 --> 00:34:24,752 Lastly, we're asking everyone that we speak to 757 00:34:24,786 --> 00:34:27,996 how they'd feel about providing a DNA swab. 758 00:34:28,031 --> 00:34:31,034 Entirely voluntary of course. 759 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:32,863 How would you feel about that? 760 00:34:33,416 --> 00:34:34,693 Not a problem. 761 00:34:34,727 --> 00:34:36,971 Good, won't take a minute. 762 00:34:44,634 --> 00:34:46,394 Mr. Mullery? DC Jake Collier. 763 00:34:46,429 --> 00:34:48,293 Have you got five minutes for a quick chat, sir? 764 00:34:48,327 --> 00:34:49,639 Now you'll have my home address 765 00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:50,881 but you decided to come here 766 00:34:50,916 --> 00:34:52,055 because you thought what? 767 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:53,470 That I'd be embarrassed? 768 00:34:53,505 --> 00:34:56,197 And gratefully duck in to some car so no one saw? 769 00:34:56,232 --> 00:34:58,648 Just wanna ask a few quick questions, sir. 770 00:34:58,682 --> 00:35:00,132 So a couple of hours ago the head suggested 771 00:35:00,167 --> 00:35:01,616 that maybe I should take some leave-- 772 00:35:01,651 --> 00:35:02,755 some of the parents have been uncomfortable 773 00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:04,136 with the situation. 774 00:35:04,171 --> 00:35:05,310 And of course I could refuse 775 00:35:05,344 --> 00:35:06,690 because she has no legal right. 776 00:35:06,725 --> 00:35:08,071 But do you know what? 777 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,625 I have spent the past 18 years telling people 778 00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,351 that I wasn't even charged, 779 00:35:12,386 --> 00:35:14,940 that not one single piece of evidence could ever be found 780 00:35:14,974 --> 00:35:18,219 to incriminate me, that the lead detective retired 781 00:35:18,254 --> 00:35:20,048 just before a misconduct case could be brought against him. 782 00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:24,743 So I am knackered and I'll take the paid break, 783 00:35:24,777 --> 00:35:26,262 thank you very much, 784 00:35:26,296 --> 00:35:27,849 but what it also means, 785 00:35:27,884 --> 00:35:31,059 is that I am not remotely fucking embarrassed, mate. 786 00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:33,372 I am not remotely embarrassed to stand here 787 00:35:33,407 --> 00:35:34,546 and tell you loudly, 788 00:35:34,580 --> 00:35:36,789 no, I will not talk to you. 789 00:35:36,824 --> 00:35:39,482 I will not sit in a car or a room or anywhere with you, 790 00:35:39,516 --> 00:35:41,035 voluntarily, ever. 791 00:35:41,069 --> 00:35:44,280 And if you want to arrest me, be my guest, 792 00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:47,455 but I'll not say not another fucking word to you, 793 00:35:47,490 --> 00:35:49,423 not even "no comment." 794 00:35:49,457 --> 00:35:52,115 Because I think the police are scum. 795 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,048 I think you lie, I think you break the law, 796 00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:56,430 I think you take bribes and you sell stories, 797 00:35:56,464 --> 00:36:00,088 but worse than that, most unforgiveable of all, 798 00:36:00,123 --> 00:36:02,229 I think you're thick. 799 00:36:02,263 --> 00:36:04,541 I think your ranks are made up of dim-witted mediocrity 800 00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:06,750 who joined the force because they wanted power 801 00:36:06,785 --> 00:36:09,512 but they're too stupid to get employed anywhere else. 802 00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:15,414 So, shame on you. 803 00:36:15,449 --> 00:36:17,105 For the way you treated me. 804 00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:23,250 [voice breaking]: For letting Hayley down so catastrophically. 805 00:36:23,284 --> 00:36:27,392 And shame on you, DC Jake Collier, 806 00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:30,395 for becoming a police officer. 807 00:36:32,397 --> 00:36:37,367 ♪ 808 00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:40,094 [sighs] 809 00:36:42,303 --> 00:36:43,649 And how sure did he seem? 810 00:36:43,684 --> 00:36:44,857 Pretty sure. 811 00:36:44,892 --> 00:36:46,825 It was an instinctive reaction, I don't think 812 00:36:46,859 --> 00:36:48,516 he was recognizing her from the newspapers. 813 00:36:48,551 --> 00:36:50,277 So this definitively places her in the house, 814 00:36:50,311 --> 00:36:51,933 possibly with all four men, 815 00:36:51,968 --> 00:36:52,865 before the wives and kids arrived. 816 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,073 Yeah. 817 00:36:54,936 --> 00:36:56,248 What was he like otherwise? 818 00:36:57,007 --> 00:36:59,631 Odd, an odd mixture. 819 00:36:59,665 --> 00:37:01,805 I mean, I guess you got to ask yourself 820 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,083 why would he be telling me that he saw Hayley in the house 821 00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:05,982 if he had something to hide? 822 00:37:06,016 --> 00:37:07,328 But? 823 00:37:07,363 --> 00:37:10,538 But, when I asked him if he'd give a DNA swab, 824 00:37:10,573 --> 00:37:13,679 he slightly looked like he'd just shat himself. 825 00:37:13,714 --> 00:37:16,061 [laughs] 826 00:37:16,095 --> 00:37:17,407 What's his background? 827 00:37:18,477 --> 00:37:19,858 Uh... 828 00:37:21,066 --> 00:37:24,242 Lived and worked in Hong Kong for 25 years. 829 00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:25,760 Mm-hmm. 830 00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:28,487 Only married for the first time six years ago. 831 00:37:28,522 --> 00:37:29,661 No previous convictions, 832 00:37:29,695 --> 00:37:31,007 at least not here. 833 00:37:31,041 --> 00:37:32,284 Uh... ah. 834 00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:34,010 Drove down to Middenham on a motorbike. 835 00:37:35,494 --> 00:37:37,772 Do we have a response from James Hollis 836 00:37:37,807 --> 00:37:38,946 about his car yet? 837 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:40,119 I'll chase that. 838 00:37:40,154 --> 00:37:41,466 How was your man? 839 00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:44,400 So, um... 840 00:37:45,539 --> 00:37:47,126 He lives in a camper van. 841 00:37:47,161 --> 00:37:49,405 Oh. 842 00:37:49,439 --> 00:37:52,511 I'd say he's definitely had some mental health issues, 843 00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:54,824 looks like he hasn't got a pot to piss in, 844 00:37:54,858 --> 00:37:58,172 except in 1999, 845 00:37:58,206 --> 00:38:00,726 he was CEO of DDM Lowe, 846 00:38:00,761 --> 00:38:05,766 his own advertising agency. 847 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,526 And this is a guy who got a double first from Cambridge, 848 00:38:07,561 --> 00:38:11,012 was basically a bit of a genius through his life, 849 00:38:11,047 --> 00:38:12,773 lived in a £5 million house 850 00:38:12,807 --> 00:38:14,809 in Notting Hill. 851 00:38:14,844 --> 00:38:15,983 Wow. 852 00:38:16,017 --> 00:38:17,156 When did he leave? 853 00:38:17,191 --> 00:38:18,641 Early 2000. 854 00:38:18,675 --> 00:38:21,713 "To pursue new challenges." 855 00:38:21,747 --> 00:38:23,335 What, like how to live in a car park? 856 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:25,682 [Cassie laughs, cell phone ringing] 857 00:38:27,201 --> 00:38:28,823 DCI Stuart. 858 00:38:28,858 --> 00:38:31,688 Hello, I'm just returning your call. 859 00:38:31,723 --> 00:38:33,414 It's Mel Hollis here, 860 00:38:33,449 --> 00:38:34,553 I'm James Hollis's ex-wife. 861 00:38:34,588 --> 00:38:35,865 Ah, Mrs. Hollis, 862 00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:39,006 yeah, thank, thanks for returning my call. 863 00:38:40,352 --> 00:38:42,181 MEL: No, it wasn't a pleasant evening. 864 00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:44,563 What it was was a train wreck. 865 00:38:44,598 --> 00:38:45,840 In what way? 866 00:38:47,255 --> 00:38:49,844 Look, the meal was fine, we ate, we cleaned up, 867 00:38:49,879 --> 00:38:52,330 the kids were knackered, it'd been a long day getting there, 868 00:38:52,364 --> 00:38:54,366 so they went to bed about 9:30. 869 00:38:54,401 --> 00:38:57,231 Which was good, that they were in bed I mean, 870 00:38:57,265 --> 00:39:00,821 because they didn't have to see Chris go 871 00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:02,926 completely nuts, for want of a better word. 872 00:39:02,961 --> 00:39:04,652 How do you mean?Out of the blue, 873 00:39:04,687 --> 00:39:09,554 he just started ranting about his life, his marriage, 874 00:39:09,588 --> 00:39:12,902 his friends, how it all meant nothing, 875 00:39:12,936 --> 00:39:15,491 how everything was an illusion-- 876 00:39:15,525 --> 00:39:16,595 it was quite terrifying. 877 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:19,426 Wow, yeah, I can imagine, and so... 878 00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:20,979 what did people do? 879 00:39:21,013 --> 00:39:23,947 Well, I mean, we all tried to calm him down, obviously, 880 00:39:23,982 --> 00:39:26,743 particularly Laura, his wife, 881 00:39:26,778 --> 00:39:31,058 but he was flailing his arms and shouting, and... 882 00:39:31,092 --> 00:39:32,439 and to be honest, 883 00:39:32,473 --> 00:39:34,130 we were all quite relieved 884 00:39:34,164 --> 00:39:36,201 when he then just suddenly walked out. 885 00:39:36,235 --> 00:39:37,927 Of the house?Mm-hmm. 886 00:39:37,961 --> 00:39:39,584 And went where? 887 00:39:39,618 --> 00:39:40,861 I don't know. 888 00:39:40,895 --> 00:39:42,656 Hm. 889 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,140 Had he been drinking? 890 00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:46,349 Well... he'd had a few, we'd all had a few, 891 00:39:46,384 --> 00:39:48,006 it was New Year's Eve. 892 00:39:49,007 --> 00:39:50,180 Anything else? 893 00:39:51,596 --> 00:39:53,770 Someone might have bought some coke, 894 00:39:53,805 --> 00:39:55,979 I don't know, maybe he'd had a bit of that. 895 00:39:56,014 --> 00:39:57,878 [pen scribbling] 896 00:39:57,912 --> 00:39:59,673 Okay. 897 00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:01,226 So who was taking coke? 898 00:40:02,330 --> 00:40:03,262 Not me. 899 00:40:03,297 --> 00:40:04,609 Not any of the women, actually. 900 00:40:04,643 --> 00:40:06,127 Tim Finch? 901 00:40:06,162 --> 00:40:08,958 Definitely not, no, he never did that. 902 00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:09,924 Uh... 903 00:40:09,959 --> 00:40:12,271 Pete-- no, he was more of a drinker. 904 00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,273 James... yes. 905 00:40:14,308 --> 00:40:17,622 In fact, I think it was him that probably bought it. 906 00:40:17,656 --> 00:40:21,211 When Chris went out of the house, 907 00:40:21,246 --> 00:40:22,627 what time would that have been? 908 00:40:22,661 --> 00:40:23,800 Dunno. 909 00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:26,285 Just after 10:00, I'd guess? 910 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,839 And did anyone go after him? 911 00:40:27,873 --> 00:40:31,601 Yeah, after a minute or two, uh... 912 00:40:31,636 --> 00:40:33,569 James and Tim.They catch up with him? 913 00:40:33,603 --> 00:40:36,157 No, no, Chris came back on his own 914 00:40:36,192 --> 00:40:39,057 about an hour and a half later, he was absolutely drenched. 915 00:40:39,091 --> 00:40:40,576 I mean, it was raining hard at this point, 916 00:40:40,610 --> 00:40:42,301 and his clothes were covered in mud, 917 00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:45,995 and he went straight upstairs to bed. 918 00:40:46,029 --> 00:40:47,583 No explanation, no apology, nothing. 919 00:40:47,617 --> 00:40:48,584 SUNNY: Right. 920 00:40:48,618 --> 00:40:50,206 Where was Pete Carr at this point? 921 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,104 Pete had been out since right after the meal, 922 00:40:52,139 --> 00:40:53,485 trying his luck at the pub. 923 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,383 "Trying his luck"? 924 00:40:55,418 --> 00:40:56,730 The ladies. 925 00:40:57,938 --> 00:40:59,802 He got back just after midnight. 926 00:40:59,836 --> 00:41:00,975 SUNNY: On his own? 927 00:41:01,010 --> 00:41:02,183 MEL: Mm-hmm. 928 00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:03,184 And pissed. 929 00:41:03,978 --> 00:41:05,290 And your husband 930 00:41:05,324 --> 00:41:06,636 and Dr. Finch?The same. 931 00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:09,467 Oh, they got back just before midnight. 932 00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,917 Just in time for "Auld Lang Syne," bless. 933 00:41:11,952 --> 00:41:14,264 Were they separate or together? 934 00:41:16,197 --> 00:41:18,268 I can't remember. 935 00:41:19,097 --> 00:41:21,064 And what happened then? 936 00:41:21,099 --> 00:41:23,481 The guys went to bed, the women stayed up, 937 00:41:23,515 --> 00:41:26,069 and talked about our car crash marriages. 938 00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:27,864 Okay. 939 00:41:27,899 --> 00:41:30,936 This is really important, Ms. Hollis, 940 00:41:30,971 --> 00:41:33,732 so I want you to think very carefully, please. 941 00:41:35,562 --> 00:41:40,498 Did you see anyone go out again after that? 942 00:41:40,532 --> 00:41:42,154 No. 943 00:41:42,189 --> 00:41:44,294 No one went out again after that. 944 00:41:44,778 --> 00:41:46,331 [exhales] 945 00:41:48,540 --> 00:41:50,266 You sound very certain. 946 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,579 Firstly, I sat up 947 00:41:52,613 --> 00:41:54,442 talking to Laura and Derran 948 00:41:54,477 --> 00:41:55,754 till about 3:00 in the morning, 949 00:41:55,789 --> 00:41:57,411 and then, I mean, 950 00:41:57,445 --> 00:41:59,102 I wasn't going to sleep with James that night, 951 00:41:59,137 --> 00:42:00,448 so I slept on the sofa. 952 00:42:00,483 --> 00:42:03,175 Except I didn't, really-- sleep, I mean-- 953 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:05,419 so that meant I would have seen if anyone had gone out. 954 00:42:05,453 --> 00:42:07,352 And they didn't. 955 00:42:07,386 --> 00:42:10,562 ♪ 956 00:42:10,597 --> 00:42:11,908 Right. 957 00:42:14,152 --> 00:42:16,292 The last sighting of her was after they were all 958 00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:17,638 back in the house. 959 00:42:19,191 --> 00:42:20,503 So she could be lying. 960 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:21,987 Yep. 961 00:42:22,022 --> 00:42:23,437 Or mistaken, maybe she did sleep, 962 00:42:23,471 --> 00:42:25,543 and one of them came down at 4:00 or 5:00 or whatever 963 00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:26,785 and then went out. 964 00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:30,133 Except if one of them came down at 4:00 or 5:00, 965 00:42:30,168 --> 00:42:33,033 went out then and killed her, where, where was Hayley 966 00:42:33,067 --> 00:42:35,553 between leaving the pub at 12:10 967 00:42:35,587 --> 00:42:37,313 and 4:00 or 5:00? 968 00:42:37,347 --> 00:42:38,866 No, that feels wrong. 969 00:42:38,901 --> 00:42:40,627 Yeah, maybe. 970 00:42:40,661 --> 00:42:42,042 But not as wrong as all four men 971 00:42:42,076 --> 00:42:43,837 having clearly lied to us through their teeth. 972 00:42:43,871 --> 00:42:45,217 There is that. 973 00:42:47,323 --> 00:42:48,427 I need a drink. 974 00:42:48,462 --> 00:42:51,534 There is that.[laughs] 975 00:42:52,466 --> 00:42:54,951 [clicks mouse] 976 00:42:58,990 --> 00:43:01,889 ♪ 977 00:43:01,924 --> 00:43:03,857 [clicks mouse] 978 00:43:03,891 --> 00:43:04,823 [keys clacking] 979 00:43:04,858 --> 00:43:06,687 GUY HALFORD: Yeah, it was about 980 00:43:06,722 --> 00:43:09,483 ten past, maybe quarter past midnight, 981 00:43:09,517 --> 00:43:10,795 enough time to change anyway. 982 00:43:10,829 --> 00:43:12,728 For the party?Yeah. 983 00:43:12,762 --> 00:43:15,834 'Cause she, she went as Madonna, 984 00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:17,318 the "Desperately Seeking Susan" one, 985 00:43:17,353 --> 00:43:20,114 you know the slap and the hair and everything. 986 00:43:20,149 --> 00:43:23,221 It was an '80s theme, I think. 987 00:43:24,256 --> 00:43:25,361 Sorry, just a sec. 988 00:43:25,395 --> 00:43:26,707 Sure. 989 00:43:34,301 --> 00:43:36,441 This is from Hayley's diary. 990 00:43:36,475 --> 00:43:37,925 "I hate the '80s, 991 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,479 "I hate fancy dress, so am going as me. 992 00:43:40,514 --> 00:43:41,757 "They should be so lucky. 993 00:43:41,791 --> 00:43:42,999 Lucky, lucky, lucky!" 994 00:43:43,034 --> 00:43:44,311 Maybe she changed her mind? 995 00:43:46,002 --> 00:43:48,867 Were there any other female staff going to the party 996 00:43:48,902 --> 00:43:51,905 who would have been the same age, same build as Hayley? 997 00:43:51,939 --> 00:43:55,563 ♪ 998 00:43:55,598 --> 00:43:57,980 [cellphone ringing, door closes] 999 00:43:58,014 --> 00:43:59,119 Hey. 1000 00:43:59,153 --> 00:44:01,259 Hey. 1001 00:44:01,293 --> 00:44:03,226 [phone continues ringing]Hey Fran, what's up? 1002 00:44:03,261 --> 00:44:05,228 There was another employee, 1003 00:44:05,263 --> 00:44:06,920 same build, same coloring, 1004 00:44:06,954 --> 00:44:08,300 same hair as Hayley, 1005 00:44:08,335 --> 00:44:10,406 who just confirmed to me that she went as Madonna, 1006 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,753 and she left around 12:10. 1007 00:44:12,788 --> 00:44:14,617 So you think the manager saw herleaving, not Hayley? 1008 00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:16,481 FRAN: I think it has to be 1009 00:44:16,515 --> 00:44:17,724 a very strong possibility. 1010 00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:19,139 Which means the last proper confirmed sighting of Hayley 1011 00:44:19,173 --> 00:44:20,623 was way earlier. 1012 00:44:20,658 --> 00:44:22,625 FRAN: 11:00, after which she could have 1013 00:44:22,660 --> 00:44:24,109 easily have just bunked off work early. 1014 00:44:24,144 --> 00:44:25,870 Okay, this is brilliant work, Fran. 1015 00:44:25,904 --> 00:44:27,250 Let's talk first thing tomorrow. 1016 00:44:27,285 --> 00:44:28,596 FRAN: Night, boss. 1017 00:44:28,631 --> 00:44:29,839 You heard that? 1018 00:44:29,874 --> 00:44:31,841 So she could actually have left the pub earlier? 1019 00:44:31,876 --> 00:44:35,293 At 11:00, which means we now have four men, 1020 00:44:35,327 --> 00:44:38,710 variously pissed, drugged up, possibly mentally unstable, 1021 00:44:38,745 --> 00:44:40,367 out, somewhere in Middenham, 1022 00:44:40,401 --> 00:44:42,921 at exactly the same time as Hayley.